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"Saturday Night Live" boss Lorne Michaels found a clever way to get them out of trouble.

Conan O'Brien and Greg Daniels recall SNL costume designer once tried to get them fired: 'Overstepping our bounds'

"Saturday Night Live" boss Lorne Michaels found a clever way to get them out of trouble.

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THE OFFICE -- "2006 Emmy opening skit" -- Aired 08/27/2006 -- Pictured: (l-r) Conan O'Brien as himself, Director Greg Daniels and Steve Carell as Michael Scott

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Conan O'Brien and Greg Daniels are reflecting on the time a costume designer tried to get them fired from *Saturday Night Live*.**

During a recent episode of the *Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend* podcast, the longtime friends and comedians, who worked together on the late-night sketch comedy series in the lat 1980s, recalled their attempted firing and the clever way that *SNL* boss Lorne Michaels managed to get them out of trouble. **

"I was just remembering the bit where we got into our first kind of argument with the costume designer," Daniels began. "They went to Lorne and they said, 'Fire these two or I'm leaving.' And Lorne was like, 'This is my costume designer. She's terrific and got all these awards and everything.'"

The stage set of Saturday Night Live with lighting and musical equipment displayed

The stage set of Saturday Night Live with lighting and musical equipment displayed.

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So it's safe to say that O'Brien and Daniels both were a little nervous when they eventually got called into Michaels' office.**

"We thought we were getting fired," O'Brien said. Daniels added, "Yeah, and he sat down and we just had this conversation. He said, 'You gotta stay in here about 20 minutes so she thinks I'm yelling at you.' And it was terrific."

O'Brien was similarly impressed by the way Michaels handled the situation. "He was great. He was like, 'I have to be here for 20 minutes and you're in here too. And just so you know, I'm yelling at you right now,'" he said. "But he wasn't."

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O'Brien went on to clarify that he and Daniels technically "didn't get into a fight" with the costume designer, but that they had inadvertently angered her by checking in on some of the "elaborate costumes" they had requested for one of their sketches. **

"We went to the place where they were manufacturing [the costumes] just to check on them because we thought that's what a good writer producer does is check on things," he elaborated. "And that, apparently, was us overstepping our bounds, which, okay, I didn't know. We didn't know that. We were brand new."

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In general, O'Brien noted that the pair "never got into fights with people or yelled at people" during their time at *SNL*. To which Daniels cheekily quipped, "No, no, no, no. We just ignorantly stepped on toes."

After their stints on *Saturday Night Live,* Daniels and O'Brien both went on to serve as writers on *The Simpsons* for several seasons*. ***

O'Brien would go on to begin a successful late-night career helming shows like NBC's *Late Night* and TBS' *Conan*, while Daniels would co-create a series of celebrated workplace comedies including the U.S. adaptation of* The Office* and *Parks and Recreation*.

Watch Daniels and O'Brien recall fearing for their jobs in the clip above.

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